Tim Pool:”I was a fan of Bernie Sanders until he said white people don’t know what it’s like to be poor.” Joe Rogan:”That’s hilarious, go to WV and visit the fucking coal miners.” WVian here. He DID, and it’s on video. He asked white people from WV’s poorest county to explain poverty on camera.

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Tim Pool was on JRE a couple days ago and said the above statement. Rogan assumed what Pool said was true and just ran with it. What's hilarious is he brought up WV, my home state, and said Sanders should visit to learn about poverty for white people.

As someone who followed Bernie for a long time, I can attest that he visited West Virginia many times, and he visited our poorest county, McDowell, 3 times. He hosted 2 events drawing attention to poverty in the area, both before and after those "white people can't be poor" comments. I think the gaffe in question was really him badly phrasing an argument about ghettos. Ghettos are definitionally racial creations. It’s true that white people in America don't know what it's like to be poor members OF A GHETTO. That's different from saying white people can't be poor in general.

It's not possible that Sanders would believe there was no such thing as white poverty, BEFORE, DURING(this one's a 1.5 hour seminar almost on poverty in WV's southern coalfields. And Sanders makes it clear the point of it is to give the people of McDowell a voice), and AFTER his presidential run(and that gaffe), he has been drawing public awareness to one of the worst areas for white poverty in the country. More than that, he gave the people of McDowell a microphone and asked them to speak about their own experiences relating to living their lives in poverty.

People should give others the benefit of the doubt if something is said at face value that contradicts everything they've stood for before and after what was said. I think Sanders's comments were just a gaffe resulting from clumsy word choice. I think context + Sanders's clear history prove he believes in white poverty and is concerned about it. Finally I think some lazy-minded people looking to confirm their own pre-conceived biases screened Sanders's word choice to make him look like he didn't care about poor white people, when that's obviously not true.

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Tim Pool on JRE: “I was a big fan of Bernie Sanders . . . [until he said] white people don’t know what it’s like to be poor.” Joe Rogan: “That’s hilarious, go to WV and visit the . . . coal miners.” WVian here. He DID. Watch this 1.5 hr event he hosted in McDowell County, WV, on white poverty.

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Tim Pool on JRE: "I was a big fan of Bernie Sanders . . . [until he said] white people don't know what it's like to be poor." Joe Rogan: "That's hilarious, go to WV and visit the . . . coal miners." WVian here. He DID. Watch this 1.5 hr event he hosted in McDowell County, WV, on white poverty. submitted by /u/Gardnerr12
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If Bernie announces, here is my running tally

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$ 27 for his SOTU response

$ 27 because he's the best person running (IMO, and hoping he runs)

$ 27 for the ageist attacks

$ 27 for the lies about him "pocketing" the cash when he's bringing his war chest forward for another run to save America

$ 27 because Kamala is frightening

$ 27 for misrepresenting his policies

$ 27 for misrepresenting democratic socialism

$ 189 so far…but likely more things will happen that will up the announcement day donation. Run, Bernie Run.

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A reminder from those of us who were here in 2016: Beware of T_D trolls

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They often pretend to be Bernie supporters, but they aren't. They will try to stick a wedge in between Bernie voters and those on the fence between Bernie and other candidates. Their goal is to try and get people here to fight with each other and make us attack those who are more/less liberal than we are. They want us to feel hopeless so they'll post clickbait articles or reference fake stories. They'll use our support for Bernie against us by posting hateful things about other democratic candidates and say things like, "If X (not Bernie) wins the nomination I'm not voting!" or "If X (not Bernie) wins the nomination I think we need to elect Trump again to send a message!"

Our goal is to spread Bernie's message. Our goal is to get Bernie the nomination. It is not our goal to stick it to other people or bring down other people. It is not our job to insult or attack other people.

The best way to make Bernie look good is by posting and sharing positive news about Bernie. It is not conducive to post negative articles about other people. We know what we want. We want Bernie, we don't need to bring down other people to achieve that.

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Is Everyone Here Still #BernieOrBust?

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I am DONE voting for lesser of two evils. I voted for Jill Stein in 2016, because writing in Bernie Sanders' name on my ballot wouldn't be counted.

I won't even vote for Warren. She already PROVED she's weak and abandons us when it's difficult to fight for what's right. She shut her mouth for TWO YEARS, about the Democratic Party's Presidential Nomination rigging, and she refused to stand up for for Bernie AND US, when Bernie was fighting for what she professes to believe. WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR HER WEAKNESS OR OTHER POLITICIANS' CORRUPTION. #BernieOrBust!

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Sanders needs to do better with women and POC according to u/ConroConro here…

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And yet all I can find is evidence that Bernie is the most popular candidate around.

NY Mag article, Nov 11 2018: – "Bernie Sanders and the Lies We Tell White Voters"

Sanders is far from alone in failing to upbraid bigots, but he is singular among white progressives being floated as 2020 hopefuls. He is the most popular political figure in America, according to multiple polls.

Gallup poll, Sept 2-4 2018

– 4 out of 5 Democrats like Bernie. 53% view the Vermont senator favorably, 38% unfavorably

In Gallup's most recent poll, conducted Sept. 4-12, Sanders has a much more favorable image than either of the other major contenders in the 2016 presidential election — Hillary Clinton (36%) and President Donald Trump (41%)

Boing Boing

According to Jan 17, 2018 Quinnipiac poll:

– women 50%, blacks 70%, latinx 55%; men 46%, whites 43%
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Washington Post, 2017 "It’s time to end the myth that black voters don’t like Bernie Sanders"

Last spring, a Harvard-Harris poll found Sanders to be the most popular active politician in the country. African Americans gave the senator the highest favorables at 73 percent — vs. 68 percent among Latinos, 62 percent among Asian Americans and 52 percent among white voters. It wasn’t a fluke: This August, black voters again reported a 73 percent favorability rating for Sanders. Critics, such as Starr, continue to point to the senator’s 2016 primary numbers among older African American voters to claim that his message somehow doesn’t resonate with people of color as a whole — and continue to ignore that, according to GenForward, Sanders won the black millennial vote in the primaries.

The senator’s message still resonates — perhaps now more than ever. Just look at the fight to expand health care: Poll after poll shows that Americans across the board are ready for “Medicare for all” — something the senator championed when it wasn’t politically popular to do so. Indeed, Pew polling found this year that 85 percent of blacks and 84 percent of Hispanics support single-payer health care — while whites are split on the issue roughly 50-50. Now, Medicare for all has the support of legislators such as rising star Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.), who recently announced she will co-sponsor Sanders’s upcoming single-payer bill. As Harris said, “It’s just the right thing to do.”

If anyone has polling data to the contrary, post it.

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