Are there any good arguments against the criticisms of Bernie’s Federal Jobs Guarantee?

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Hi everyone! I've recently been cycling through the Sanders, Yang, and Warren platforms. Not sure who I'll vote for yet, but I think some compelling arguments have been made against Bernie's Federal Jobs guarantee that I haven't seen addressed. Just hoping you guys can offer me a perspective I haven't seen, and clear up any possible confusion I might have 🙂

  1. What if you don't like the job the government assigns you? When you're at the point of being assigned a job by the gov, it seems you have no other options.
  2. What if you're a bad worker? This is intended to combat unemployment, so I'm assuming it would be very hard for a person to be fired. And having a bunch of unproductive workers on staff is harmful to the programs they are a part of.
  3. This is a bit of a multi-parter. What are the long-term prospects of such a federal program, when the data shows that 47% of total employment in the United States is at “high risk” of automation (i.e. in an occupation with at least a 70% chance of automation) in the next decade or two? What is the purpose of hiring humans to perform jobs where AI/robots are cheaper and more efficient? What jobs is Bernie envisioning being available that wouldn't be more easily and cheaply handled by private contractors? And thinking long term, would there even be enough jobs available a decade or two down the line for such a large program to be useful?
  4. Why create more complicated bureaucracy, rather than just giving people the resources they need and allowing them to make their own decisions (such as with a UBI)? It seems that under Sanders' Jobs and housing plans, people in poverty are no longer capable of individualistic decision-making (at least in terms of their core needs, such as jobs and housing), and most of their life is at the mercy of the federal government.

Sorry if any of these have already been debunked; just looking to ensure I have all the information and points of view before I make any final decisions 🙂

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Policy Question: If a Federal Jobs Guarantee goes into effect, what happens to the economy during a federal shutdown?

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Random facts regarding federal shutdowns:

  • 13 federal shutdowns since 1981
  • The most recent shutdown in 2018/2019 was 35 days (even throughout the Christmas holiday) with an estimated loss of $ 11 billion.
    • ~800,00 federal employees (380,000 on furloughed pay, the rest working without pay)
    • Furloughed pay puts an estimated 60% of employees at risk of missing rent and bills as most Americans can't pay for an unexpected $ 400/500 bill

To my understanding, a FJG would substantially increase the number of federal employees, putting more families at risk during a federal shutdown.

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Can anybody point me to a resource where Bernie’s Job’s Guarantee is really fleshed out?

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Specifically, I'm curious about the logistical aspects. Bernie's in my first tier definitely (I waited in line for literally 4 hours to vote for him in the primaries last cycle!), but I'm admittedly a little skeptical about the practicality of this. The two main points I'm caught up on:

  1. How do we create the right number of jobs in the right places? (Un / Under)employed people exist in every town and city in every state in the country. If the entire target population for a federally guaranteed job existed in one area, then okay, easy! Solar cell manufacturing plant right there and voila. But since (un / under)employment is totally diffused throughout the country, where do we put jobs (and which ones) exactly?Obviously we can't build a manufacturing plant in every township in the country. Would we just have like central hubs that people commute to? I live in rural Utah in a town of <5000 people and the nearest thing even resembling a city is an hour away. Would I just have to make that kind of commute every day? Or is there some other way to create localized work that I'm not seeing?
  2. How do you match people to jobs in a way that actually suits their particular skills, interests, or requirements? If we do figure out how to create the right number of jobs in the right places, can we also provide people with choices? Do we just guarantee a job? Like there's just the one and take it or leave it? What if the one kind of job that can be made available to me is totally misaligned with what I find rewarding or even tolerable? What if the job makes me miserable? Like do I apply for a transfer and have to relocate or something? Or just go back to my options in the "free" market (which clearly weren't working if I needed a federally guaranteed job in the first place).

Anybody want to think out loud about this or point me somewhere discussing either the logistical issue (point one) or the like experiential side of all this (point two)?

Thanks! <3

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Federal Jobs Guarantee

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Hello all, so I’m 18 yrs old fairly new to politics and am a Bernie supporter, donator, etc. but something that idk if I support about Bernie is a federal jobs guarantee. How would that work? Pros and cons? I tried to search it up but I can’t seem to find any other major developed country that does this. ?????

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Under Bernie Sanders, income and jobs would soar, economist says

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Under Bernie Sanders, income and jobs would soar, economist says

https://i.redd.it/h1bb9iw579a31.jpg

Median income would soar by more than $ 22,000. Nearly 26 million jobs would be created. The unemployment rate would fall to 3.8%.

Those are just a few of the things that would happen if Bernie Sanders became president and his ambitious economic program were put into effect, according to an analysis given exclusively to CNNMoney. The first comprehensive look at the impact of all of Sanders' spending and tax proposals on the economy was done by Gerald Friedman, a University of Massachusetts Amherst economics professor.

https://money.cnn.com/2016/02/08/news/economy/sanders-income-jobs/index.html

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Federal Jobs Guarantee Numbers

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Hey,

What kind of employment numbers are we expecting from these jobs? I know it's got to be a ton.


As part of the Green New Deal, we need millions of workers to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure—roads, bridges, drinking water systems, wastewater plants, rail, schools, affordable housing—and build our 100% sustainable energy system. This infrastructure is critical to a thriving, green economy.

At a time when our early childhood education system is totally inadequate, we need hundreds of thousands of workers to provide quality care to the young children of our country.

As the nation ages, we will need many more workers to provide supportive services for seniors to help them age in their homes and communities, which is where they want to be.

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